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Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:27:00 -
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I have never gotten so IRL bent out of shape at the people pushing their axe now that Mitanni has "promised" something in a moment of weakness than any other thing about some silly video game. Those of you using this to push even FURTHER and call to remove Mitanni from the CSM and thus disenfranchise a significant portion of the playerbase entirely disgust me. This election was great and we have a huge variety of representatives, including two hisec representatives on the main CSM and one hisec alternate! Don't **** this up by pouncing on his weakness with "moralistic" pretext, and I seriously question how many of you would actually forgive him if he DID resign from the CSM. The answer to that question may reveal something you might not want to admit to even yourself.
That is not to say that people should not be disgusted by what he did, I was myself and seriously considered if I wanted to keep playing Eve Online if the atmosphere would be like this.
I'm sure you don't need anyone to tell you this at this point Mitanni, but make this decision on your own. Resign from your chairmanship if you feel it's right, but please don't quit the CSM. |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:00:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Words are meaningless! Except those words you used that caused all of this bull, those words weren't. These ones are though!
Not empty quoting.
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Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 09:40:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:I am Want to keep posting your 'cult' BS, carry on
I do not think you know what those words you used mean!
Then again, you liked I post I made of a much earlier topic where I said your thread was a "pretty entertaining troll" so maybe you're just messing with us again? |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 10:19:00 -
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Svenne007 wrote:Just strange that before it hit all the new site, the only answer he could give "Deal with it". But then after a few days it started to hit other game-sites and way more public ones, he actually started to do some damage-control.
With as answer to that "I had no decent way to react". But he did have a way to down talk and mock people stating their opinion of his miss-step. So he did have the means to react to a lot of post, but no way to apologize straight away ....
And to then use the excuse of "I was drunk" is even more lame. We all are responsible for our own actions whatever the state we helped our selfs into.
He wanted a CSM seat where he would be scrutinized, and if you then go make statements that could affect people and their life outside the game. Don't be surprised people will have an opinion of it and it might become a bigger storm than one expected.
We all make mistakes, but it's how we deal with and solve them that shows the person you are!
I'm not sure where The Mitanni is using "I was drunk" to excuse his actually saying what he said in this OP. Perhaps you should reread it before posting again?
Not remembering what he said because he was drunk is not an excuse for his behavior, it's an explanation for why he didn't apologize earlier as he did not actually see or remember the words he said at the panel until he saw an article.
Edit: Oh wait, he specifically says it's not an excuse!
The Mittani wrote:
I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.
So yeah, stop putting words in people's mouths or stop posting, k? |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:17:00 -
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Solid Raiden wrote:I won't pretend I'm some sort of moralist here asking for him to be punished for what he did. I don't really care. Was it appropriate? Not really, but then again in all honesty, who cares?
But I am having a laugh seeing Mittani squirm and would enjoy seeing his CSM chair burn.
A rare moment of honesty at the end of this Raiden dot post. |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:25:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Taron Nait wrote:Keen Fallsword wrote:Its not about this poor guy anymore its about rules. Rules are Rules you should't be breaking EULA. ITT people who think the EULA should apply to real life. Actually being that quiet often EULA's are non legal documents as some sections of them are generally void in different parts of the world saying it breaks the rules is kind of silly. Especially as it occurred outside of the game. This is more about the black eye CCP has now gotten and what their response needs to be to prevent opening them selves to law suits down the track.
This is a valid thing, though I'm pretty sure CCP is pretty experienced with dealing with legal issues related to griefing. However that's pretty much for CCP's lawyers to figure out. It'll really suck if CCP has to disenfranchise 10000 subs to protect themselves, and if the game goes to **** because Mitanni isn't in the CSM then they'll lose subs there, but whatcha gonna do?
But uh, that's not something that any of the internet "experts" in this forum are really qualified to talk about, and the outcry from a select group of people seem to be around the fact that Mitanni is ~morally obligated~ to resign from a serious internet spaceships council because of behaving very inappropriately once, regardless of how honest his apology is. |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:35:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:As far as me concerned that looks like a decent enough apology. He probably should step down as chairman for the sake of the community and not to silence the drivel from vultures. Wether he remains a CMS or not i dont really care about.
If its a troll, its a good one. Personally i dont think it is.
Oh geeze I'm (mostly) agreeing with a Raiden dot what has happened to this threadnaught.
(realtalk I recognize that all people of an alliance are the same as my alliance's propaganda on them yadda yadda)
The chairman is a silly title that only holds sway people having fancy titles makes people pay more attention to you politically. In some ways he's already lost a lot of sway with CCP and I question whether resigning from chairman will change anything. Seems like a good idea if it would help CCP's PR, I'm not sure what portions of the "community" you are talking about. I'm pretty ambivalent about the chairmanship, and really opposed about Mitanni resigning/being kicked from the CSM since he represents a lot of players' views about what the game should be like, mine included!
Mostly I'm just IRL mad over people who have only experienced Mitanni's in-game persona claiming that the apology from Alex is false. I can understand how someone could convince themselves of that but sheesh guys, there's no tinfoil conspiracy of a bunch of brainwashed goons brainlessly supporting Dear Leader as much as there are people who actually know him enough to believe the apology. At least try to watch some videos or speeches from him or something before making such a judgment. (inc. witty troll response about how they watched this one video of him giving an alliance panel presentation).
But whatever, it is a terrible thing Mitanni has done. To me it's to me an acceptable apology and recompensation to the victim. Others may think it's not enough, others may think nothing is ever going to be enough because they hate the individual so viciously they'll use any means they have to cut him down, whatever. I'm checking out of this thread and ending the fight against people taking stuff out of context and flatout misrepresenting him like the fine fellow who said Mittens was trying to use alcohol as an excuse for what he said to the person (those of you about to attack this, reread the OP. Carefully.)
There's nothing at all wrong with being upset about this or about what it may mean to CCP's legal worries, but for the latter I'd let CCP's lawyers figure things out for them instead of trying to help them with your expertise gained from looking up law on Wikipedia.
Peace.
Lorren Canada wrote:Everyone who unironically posted in this thread should go kill themselves.
Someone hand me my spacesword :royofca:
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